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Lamberts Yard
High Street
Tonbridge
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Our Ref : DAC / AMS / 5409

15th October 2003


Mr L Fiddler
Head of Policy Support Unit
The Department for Constitutional Affairs
DX 117000 London


Dear Mr Fiddler

DCA Consultation Paper ‘Delivering value for money in The Criminal Defence Service’

I am very much obliged to you for your letter of 10 October 2003 and for the obvious time taken to research the situation and respond fully to my letter.

I am happy to note there is nothing between us with regard to the failure by the Minister to comply with the Code of Practice on Written Consultations. 

I can also appreciate that you may not be aware of why the Minister failed to comply with the guidelines and what, if any, statement would have accompanied the guidelines if the Minister happened to deal with matters properly.

I am grateful for your efforts to try to explain what might have been in the Minister’s mind but in view of the seriousness of the default, I would have hoped that the Minister could explain his own shortcomings.  An explanation for why he did not comply with the Government’s guidelines would surely be appropriate together with full reasons why a period of only eight weeks was allowed for responses. 

You may agree with me that if the Minister had, in fact, decided that a shorter period than the normal twelve week minimum was appropriate, then this would have highlighted in his own mind the need to have an explanatory statement included in the consultation document.  It may be an obvious inference to draw but the lack of explanatory statement in the document may show that the Minister was, in fact, unaware of the Government’s own guidelines in which case any attempt to explain why the shorter period was allowed may be both unhelpful and misleading.

I hope you do not take anything that I have said as criticism of your response.  I am quite prepared to say again that I greatly appreciate the efforts you have put in. 

If we take my point one stage further, if the Minister did realise that he was curtailing the minimum period for responses, then it would seem that the failure to include the explanatory statement in the document is all the more inexplicable. 

There may have been a change of Minister responsible for the Consultation document but no doubt the full notes dealing with these issues remain available.  Indeed the former Lord Chancellor may be able to assist with his own recollections. 

I note what you say with regard to a considerable number of responses.  I can confirm from my own knowledge that many practitioners in this field were under a great deal of pressure to try to formulate responses to the consultation document within the short period that was allowed to us.  I have no doubt that the longer period for such an important consultation would have resulted in more responses and will have allowed additional consideration to be given to each representation.

With regard to the statistical assertions that were untrue, I do hope that you can assist me a bit further. 

You will, of course, be aware that the assertion that we speak of not only found itself being used by areas of the Press to attack hard working legal aid lawyers like myself but it must have been clear to the person drafting the document that this would be the case. 

Forgive me if I misunderstand aspects of your letter on this point.  It appears that the assertion of which I speak is not now considered to be of any real importance in the review of public funding in the criminal sphere. 

I am not sure I follow the logic on that and your further guidance would be appreciated. 

I may be accused of being too simplistic on the subject but surely the very important and bold assertion that criminal lawyers were being paid a lot more public money whilst assisting significantly fewer members of the public must have been an important argument for the way in which the Consultation document was drafted.  It would also seem to have quite some affect upon the way in which the Legal Services Commission immediately responded with their own Consultation document. 

The question may be rhetorical, but I wonder how the Consultation document would have been drafted if it included the different, and probably more accurate, comment that criminal lawyers continue to give value for public money.  My understanding of what the true figures should be would support that assertion, especially when compared with the present position with public defender offices and taking into account the almost non-existent increases in rates that we have received since 1992.

Although the question I raise above is rhetorical, could I ask that the Minister or Public Servant responsible re-draft the particular paragraph that we are concerned with and let me have a note of how it should have looked, together with access to all of the statistics that will deal fully and accurately with the issues that I raised in my original correspondence.

I did hesitate before writing to you at such length as you were so kind to respond in the way that you did but I know you will appreciate the significant concern that practitioners and employers like myself continue to have with the way in which public funding issues are addressed.

I look forward to hearing from you again and thank you in anticipation of your continued kind attention.

Yours sincerely


Dennis Clarke